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Liquid Logic Remix XP10 Long Term Review By Atom Crawford

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Liquid Logic Remix XP10 Product Review by Atom Crawford

Ever since I read about Woody’s self support trip down the Grand canyon in A Remix XP, I Was hooked. Story here:

http://www.liquidlogickayaks.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=410

I love doing scenic overnighters and that boat sounded like just the ticket for some serious fun, and room to add more fun. All I needed was the boat and a permit. I purchased the boat from CKS (Woody’s yellow one from the Grand, how cool is that) and all I had to do was add some hip foam, (serious hip foam) as Woody and I are about the same height but a couple hundred pounds separates the rest. I then scored a Selway permit, 12 folks all kayak self support. It was meant to be. First off, This boat is super comfy. And I mean deluxe arm chair beer in hand comfy. You could almost sleep in this thing. Second, it can pack an enormous amount of whatever it is you desire for a trip. The hatch in the back offers access to a sealed waterproof compartment, tons of room in there. Behind the seat is even more room. The boat has footpegs, so you can stuff the front with even more gear. The cockpit is massive, so I could have a throw rope, water bottle, fishing rod (collapsible), and camera all secured between my legs and out of the way. Thirdly, It has a drop down skeg. And believe me it is not a gimmick. You drop that thing down and start hammering away, say goodby to whomever is trying to keep up. I love that with the skeg down, I just need to paddle and not worry about correction strokes. fourthly, this kayak is unbelievably stable. Almost impossible to tip over. Cruise control river runner for sure. Rumor has it that in calm water you can even stand up in it to take a leak. (in case the shore was covered in poisonous snakes, crocs, cougars and other unsavory specimens). Long story short, I love this kayak. I had over 60lbs in it on the Selway and it treated me right. Did just fine on the Class3-4 low water drops and I was amped to be able to carry whatever I wanted on the trip (5 days, 4 nights). We had 3 Remix’s on the Selway and they were the envy of the rest of the self support kayak cast….(it also rolls really easy)….

Specs:

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Pros:

  • Comfy, can carry the household if need beLiquidLogic_Remix_XP10_Gear_StorageLiquidLogic_Remix_XP10_Gear_Storage2
  • Runs rapids really well for a big boatLiquidLogic_Remix_XP10_WW
  • The drop down skeg is the bombLiquidLogic_Remix_XP10_Flats2
  • The sealed rear hatch is awesome
  • If doing a self support class 3-4 trip-BUY THIS BOAT!!!
  • Great on local lakes and mellow floats
Another tough day on the river.

Another tough day on the river.

Cons:

  • Doesn’t come with beer holder or fishing rod holder
  • Needs custom skirt size-Snapdragon makes a great one
  • Footpegs are weak-they blow off if driving hard or boofing (they don’t break-just peel off)
  • Seal the skeg bolts with silicone so the rear hatch stays dry

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Atom didn’t give us a “verdict” on the Remix XP10, but judging by his photos and comments it’s safe to assume that he likes it a lot.

Here’s another cool video about taking the Remix XP’s down the French Broad River in Asheville, NC USA: http://www.liquidlogickayaks.com/liquidTV/xp_fbroad.swf

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Liquid Logic Remix XP10

The Liquid Logic Remix XP series (10 and 12….feet long) is new for 2009.  It is a TRUE multi-purpose whitewater /recreational kayak that is much needed in the consumer industry.  Liquid Logic basically took a Remix, and made it longer and wider. It also has a cargo hatch (“backcess” hatch) on the back, a skeg (really cool!) and bungee cords for attaching gear and maps to.
Specs:
Length:10′3″
Width:28″
Volume:105 gallons
Bow Rocker:14.7″

The Remix Holds It's Line Flat Water (remember it's got a removable skeg!)

The Remix holds it's line in flat water (remember...it's got a movable skeg! You can see the lever just behind the back right part of the cockpit rim ).

Megan's first day in a kayak.......ever. The Remix XP10 must be stable.

Megan's first day in a kayak ever.....The Remix XP10 must be stable.

Pros:
This kayak is loaded with many appealing features. It’s got an adjustable skeg, cargo hatch, bungee ties, great outfitting and a huge cockpit that add to the versatility of this boat. The skeg sits inside of the back of the boat, and is completely out of the way, when it is in the raised position.  There is a hand lever just to the right of the cockpit that allows the paddler to raise and lower the skeg while he or she is paddling in the boat. This is great for areas that have lakes that  are connected by rivers, and for people who paddle in flat water as well as rivers.  We took the XP10 out for a paddle at our local lake.  The CKS staff noticed that the boat was very fast and stable for a whitewater kayak, and that it tracked amazingly well when the skeg was down. It even tracked pretty well when the skeg was up.

The “backcess” hatch in the back of the boat has a removable top.  It is not water-proof, but it does hold out most of the water. There was plenty of room in the back, enough to store a weeks worth of gear or so. This boat would be a perfect choice for The Grand Canyon, Rogue or Middle Fork self support trips (click here to view or large selection of river and flat water guide books).

The bungee ties on the top of the boat were a nice touch and reminds me of what you see on high end touring kayaks. This is a great place to put maps, guide books and small storage bags.

Check out this link from the Ottawa river.  This is a perfect spot to test the Remix XP10. There are big rapids and fun waves to surf in a whitewater boat, yet huge pools and lots of flat water with tasty fish.

You the see the hybrid appearance...Half touring rec boat, half whitewater.

Slick looking hybrid appearance...Half touring rec boat, half whitewater.

The front looks like a regular Remix with Bungee ties

The front looks like a regular Remix with bungee ties. You can see the skeg lever on the right side of the boat behind the cockpit.

Close up of the "backcess" hatch.

Close up of the

Cons:
The Liquid Logic Remix XP10 is a big boat. It is great for stuffing a lot of gear into the back, and paddling off into the unknown for a lot longer than you could with a traditional whitewater boat.  The drawback to paddling such a large and heavy (loaded with overnight gear) boat, is that it may be difficult for some people to control in tight, technical whitewater.  Smaller paddlers especially will be fully aware that they are paddling a 105 gallon boat.  Keep in mind that the Remix 47 is 1/2 as many gallons. If you are a beginning kayaker  and are looking for a boat to learn in, this may not be the best boat in the Remix series…..Perhaps a smaller one would be better.

The Verdict:
This boat is a great option for people that paddle on all types of water (lakes, ponds, rivers and ocean). It tracks amazingly well on flat water because of it’s retractable skeg system, and handles whitewater just like a Remix on steroids. Self-support paddlers will love the cargo hatch, as well as fisherman  who want a place to keep their catch. This boat is 105 gallons so keep that in mind if you are a beginning whitewater kayaker, or small and light…. It’s a lot of boat. Overall,  this boat get 2 big thumbs up from the CKS staff.

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